David Gergen: “That's right. That's fundamentally the choice. Do you escalate in order to try to secure it, give it one more big try.”

Sadly, you know, I think for a variety of reasons he should not. I just, I don't think either Trump or Biden should be running.

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?

I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.