David Gergen said...

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be...

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both ...

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she...