David Gergen: “We're going to need an extraordinary -- really extraordinary leadership over the next four years.”

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

I don't think Trump is out of the woods, even though his poll numbers are not only staying up, they have actually been strengthened some.

I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.