David Gergen: “it's not a governing strategy.”

No, their problem is Anderson, he's got more support back in their districts in their states than they do and that gives him enormous -- it gives him enormous leverage against them.

I think we're in an unsustainable path. It's compared to being in a car on the edge of a cliff, and middle of the night with it with a rainy and no headlights.

I think the signs are just as Margaret says. They are saying that he is increasingly interested. Strikingly, Anderson, his interest seems to intensify when he sees Biden in trouble.

Again, both sides are having an eye on the clock. In the Democrats' case, they really want to keep things speed up as much as they can, probably as they can because they know in November, they may lose the House of Representatives and the…