If at the end of the day there is only an indictment of Roger Stone and no indictment of anyone else or no charges leveled against the president with regard to collusion or obstruction, that will be a major victory. The White House would take that in a heartbeat.
Gergen discusses the implications of potential indictments related to the Mueller investigation and how it would be perceived by the White House.
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