David Gergen: “What Americans want now is leadership that is strong as well as steady and it is steadying force.”

He is a leader there's no question about that. But I think he's a bad leader. I think he's leaving his people into, he's leading the country, especially into a very bad place.

he ought to stay out of this.

I think the evidence is still coming in that this country is deeply divided.

No, their problem is Anderson, he's got more support back in their districts in their states than they do and that gives him enormous -- it gives him enormous leverage against them.