David Gergen: “It's not actually saying, well, the President's right, that there's a lot of killers, or that, you know, whatever the…”

I think the turning point that came were the midterm elections. The fever broke with those midterm elections. And what we've seen since then is a steady decline in Trump's credibility and in his position with the American people, and a…

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.

If he comes out and throws cold water on this, then I don't think it goes anywhere.

I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.