David Gergen: “They are getting traction, the United States is getting traction with the Pakistanis. That is very encouraging.”

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?

I think the signs are just as Margaret says. They are saying that he is increasingly interested. Strikingly, Anderson, his interest seems to intensify when he sees Biden in trouble.

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

I think Chuck Schumer will have to pay more attention.