David Gergen actually said...

It's what's made Americans so cynical about politics.

Yes Joe is absolutely right on that, Anderson.

I'm afraid it is, Anderson. And it is what made -- it's what's made Americans so cynical about politics, and it's particularly cynical to --...

What it suggests is, I still think they are going to get the Senate to pass this bill in the next few days, before Christmas. But it suggest...