But John, I think the point the president and the White House has to come back to is they've got to come -- and they've got to come away from their tentativeness and get off this thing and come out very squarely what they want to do.
Gergen emphasizes the need for the Obama administration to take a clear stance on U.S. involvement in Afghanistan.
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I think the evidence is still coming in that this country is deeply divided.
I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?
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