David Gergen: “That was one of the dumbest things I have seen a party chairman do in a while.”

I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.

If he comes out and throws cold water on this, then I don't think it goes anywhere.