David Gergen: “Absolutely. And look, there's nothing more American than a libel laws. We do set a higher standard. We require more of a…”

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

You can't out-Nixon Nixon very easily, but Donald Trump has.

I think the turning point that came were the midterm elections. The fever broke with those midterm elections. And what we've seen since then is a steady decline in Trump's credibility and in his position with the American people, and a…

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…