David Gergen: “It's all about votes, not a marriage.”

he ought to stay out of this.

He is a leader there's no question about that. But I think he's a bad leader. I think he's leaving his people into, he's leading the country, especially into a very bad place.

I think that really kneecaps the Biden ministration in a significant way.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…