If you have evidence that the President directed most of this, he directed Giuliani, he directed Mulvaney on - on, you know, on - on a variety of issues, if you have that kind of information, even though you may not have obvious intent or obvious evidence, isn't that persuasive--
David Gergen discusses the implications of evidence showing that President Trump directed actions involving Giuliani and Mulvaney.
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If he comes out and throws cold water on this, then I don't think it goes anywhere.
I think it's going to take something usually unexpected or a dramatic change in his health or a prison sentence to stop him.
I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.
The midterms really helped him. They transformed the race, best midterm elections for any president in 20 years.
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