David Gergen: “the Europeans are going to take this as somewhat naive.”

No, their problem is Anderson, he's got more support back in their districts in their states than they do and that gives him enormous -- it gives him enormous leverage against them.

If he comes out and throws cold water on this, then I don't think it goes anywhere.

I think it's going to take something usually unexpected or a dramatic change in his health or a prison sentence to stop him.

He is a leader there's no question about that. But I think he's a bad leader. I think he's leaving his people into, he's leading the country, especially into a very bad place.