David Gergen: “I'm not sure Caroline Kennedy as well meaning, well intentioned, the good public servant that she is, I'm not sure she…”

I think the signs are just as Margaret says. They are saying that he is increasingly interested. Strikingly, Anderson, his interest seems to intensify when he sees Biden in trouble.

This represents a very professional, thoughtful, first set of steps by Joe Biden.

No, their problem is Anderson, he's got more support back in their districts in their states than they do and that gives him enormous -- it gives him enormous leverage against them.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…