David Gergen: “Only 33 percent of the polls say it's worth shutting down the government to get the wall. I think he's ultimately going…”

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.

For Donald Trump to go for a 24-plus hours without a word being said is an outrage in and of itself. This is a man who is seeking the nomination of a major political party, very likely to get it. And now look at the leadership he is…

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?

If he comes out and throws cold water on this, then I don't think it goes anywhere.