David Gergen: “Absolutely. And they could -- they -- they don't want to go so far, but they still want to press it at the local level.”

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

It's increasingly hard to govern.

I think the Republicans need to have an intervention.

I think we're in an unsustainable path. It's compared to being in a car on the edge of a cliff, and middle of the night with it with a rainy and no headlights.