On the recordApril 23, 1998
And I am glad the gentleman from Texas does, and therefore there is no reason to interrupt me. Let me just say to my friend he should only interrupt me when he disagrees with me. He need not interrupt me when he agrees with me. He should just nod his head and we will all notice that. But I appreciate the agreement. So we are now in agreement that we are talking about nonviolent felons, and they said including people who may have been convicted of tax fraud or insurance fraud. Secondly, though, this does say no release could be a remedy because of conditions of confinement or. Now the gentleman says it is only overcrowding, but the word ``or'' apparently means something different to me than it does to the gentleman. ``Or'' generally means there is something else that is involved. It says these insurance fraud perpetrators cannot be released either because of conditions of confinement or because of the effects of actions by government officials on the lives of persons confined in prison. In other words, if prison officials are grossly violating people's rights, and even people who have committed fraud have rights, as we all agree, even if it is not overcrowded, but if it deals with violations of their rights by conscious acts, one of the remedies cannot be to release people.
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