Mike Johnson actually said...

I think we want to be careful not to encourage overborrowing. But you are absolutely right that the level of interest rate on some of these ...

Second, be revenue neutral. Do not give up on the revenue.

And that is why what the Federal Government does in terms of fiscal policy is particularly important.

This is why the Dodd-Frank reforms are so important, and I urge you not to lose track of that part of the big picture.