03/07/2012
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"It's hard to get the groups together to figure that out."
"I believe that I have a unique perspective, along with other members as well, on the extent that critical infrastructure throughout our country relies more and more on our interdependent technologies."
"I think at least in my experience, if the goal is to actually educate whatever, 1.5, 1.7, 2.5, you've got to measure it."
"Thank you very much."