James Carville actually said...

But they can't be, because they have an obligation to their shareholders, just like they can't be transparent about the flow.

The reason that they don't let you out there is one word and it's not plastic. It's lawyers.

I think -- I'm afraid if their shareholders -- I don't -- I think this thing -- like I said, my own view -- and I hope I'm wrong -- but has ...

This is a catastrophe of the first magnitude.