Mike Braun actually said...

They have a fairly--they have got somewhat larger central Government, probably budget, but they don't borrow money to spend what they want t...

I think it is great advice and I think that data was coming in while we were contending with it, and we just were stubborn in not focusing o...

They have a fairly--they have got somewhat larger central Government, probably budget, but they don't borrow money to spend what they want t...

over the last two decades, it is north of maybe $10 trillion that have been added to the Federal debt.