Mark Souder: “Yes, I have a question. I want to see if I understand the scope of this and how this starts to interrelate. Carey was…”

“Yes, I have a question. I want to see if I understand the scope of this and how this starts to interrelate. Carey was running for the leadership of the Teamsters against Jimmy Hoffa, Jr., and he felt he needed more money to run. So if I understand what the gentleman is saying, they, Carey, the forces, depleted their own members' funds but to complete this they, in effect, gave money to a third source, or second source, which is the Democratic Party, which then in return made sure that additional dollars got back to Carey, not necessarily all that had gone out but Carey got it personally, because if he had stolen Teamsters funds for his own campaign that would have looked bad. Is the gentleman saying that, did I get that correct, that it went to a third party and then some of that came back, matching contributions came back? How did some of that work?”