Peter Roskam actually said...

The long-term discussion on Medicare is a discussion that continues to, I think, get everybody's attention.

Because this is a zero-sum game, right?

It is a selective admission process. And their argument is, look, this shows that the system isn't being abused and so forth.

So when these things are manipulated--and I know that is a characterization, but I will characterize it as a manipulation--when they are man...