John Shimkus actually said...

Isn't it better for facilities to operate under an enforceable permit instead of a self-implementing regulation?

We are pretty close on how we need to get to where we need to get to, and we just want to continue to work with you.

Isn't that preferable than fighting through the courts and having citizen suits across the country?

I think the discussion draft basically identifies a base standard, and I think it is pretty clear.