03/15/2011
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"Don't you think that if we are going to have this debate that the Department of Energy ought to help us define what is a family?"
"Some large manufacturers have already begun moving production to lower-cost countries. Short-term, U.S. job loss."
"This is actually a very good panel. There really is more that unites us than divides us on this whole debate."
"Shouldn't the Department of Energy help us define their savings? The answer is they don't."