Pamela, I think it's easy, and maybe my vantage point is skewed because I hear from Republican base voters every day. And look, I think there's credible evidence that Donald Trump committed crimes to overturn the election, but Republican voters, Pamela don't see it that way. They really do truly believe -- and this is what I hear every day -- that the government, the deep state is after him. Trump is a martyr. He's a victim. That is such a powerful narrative with Republican voters, and I don't think it's a narrative that any of his Republican competitors can overcome. And I think he'll be fairly formidable in a general election and that scares me.
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Joe Walsh discusses the perception among Republican voters that Trump is a victim of a deep state conspiracy, which he believes makes Trump a strong candidate in future elections.
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