Richard Durbin actually said...

I think we don't have the tools to measure performance at this point.

If KIPP came in tomorrow and said, 'We want to open a third charter school,' you wouldn't say, 'Wait a minute. We've got to try a new approa...

We have to think--we're all working now, across the United States--Notre Dame, everyone--to come up with better ways of doing this.

Two out of 59 schools were turned down, as opposed to two out of three for charter schools.