Zbibniew Brzezinski, the Polish-born national security advisor to President Jimmy Carter, tells a story about how the news of Cardinal Karol Wojtyla's election as Pope was received by the communist rulers of Poland. On that day in October 1978, Mr. Brzezinski said, a group of communist writers and party leaders were meeting in Krakow. A police colonel was speaking, complaining about the opposition of the church, when a woman ran into the room and said, "Wojtyla has been elected Pope!" The second secretary of the party, not realizing his microphone was still on, turned to the first secretary and said, "My God, my God, now we will have to kiss his"--and he did not say "ring." The first party secretary, understanding the enormity of the moment, replied, "Only if he lets us." In neighboring Czechoslovakia, a dissident playwright was with friends when news of the new Polish Pope came. Vaclav Havel, who would go on to become the first elected president of the Czech Republic, said he and his friends literally danced with joy when they heard the news. "We felt," he said, "that he was a great and charismatic man who will open the door to an unprecedented renaissance in Christianity and through it, to human spirituality in general, and who will fundamentally influence the future destiny and political order of the world." More than 26 years later, those stories seem prophetic. Karol Wojtyla, Pope John Paul II, did indeed change the world.
On the recordApril 5, 2005
Source
govinfo.govEditor's note · Context
Discussing the impact of Pope John Paul II's election on Poland and the world.
Share
More from Dick Durbin
Aug 18, 2026
That’s why we’ve had an ongoing battle here in Washington for years against the for-profit college and university industry.
Aug 16, 2026
Senate Democrats continue to support the full repeal of Republicans’ disastrous Medicaid cuts and stand united in calling on the Trump Administration to withdraw this harmful rule.
Aug 24, 2026
“The highest court in the land shouldn’t have the lowest ethical standards. Public trust in the Supreme Court remains near historic lows, and every story of a luxury gift or questionable failure to recuse contributes to it. The American…
Aug 11, 2026
“Birthright citizenship is the law of the land, which the Supreme Court just upheld in June.





