David Axelrod: “I have to believe that Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and others are urging him to postpone any kind of meeting until after…”

The nature of presidential politics is the bar gets raised constantly.

I think the darker interpretation of what we saw today is that they were setting up a pretext, he and the vice president for walking away from Ukraine and blaming Zelenskyy for it.

There's no doubt about that. But I also want to say this. You know, all presidents sort of feed off of perceptions of the person who came before and they want to position against what people found lacking in the person that came before.

I think there's a lot of concern among Republican officeholders. Governor Pawlenty could speak more readily to this than me.