More of a shallow swamp character than deep state character.
Editor's note · Context
Axelrod comments on Sondland's status, dismissing claims of him being part of the deep state.
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I think the Democratic party has become too much of a cosmopolitan, college educated party. It still advocates for working people, but it doesn't really communicate with them very well.
There's no doubt about that. But I also want to say this. You know, all presidents sort of feed off of perceptions of the person who came before and they want to position against what people found lacking in the person that came before.
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