David Axelrod actually said...

Yes, I mean, it is. You know, it is it is appalling. Nothing is shocking, Anderson, anymore, because you know, there's a well-established storyline here and a well-established pattern. He does not believe -- he never believed in rules or laws or norms or democratic institutions, and it was very clear that he was trying to overturn the election in any way he could.

07/29/2021

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