David Axelrod actually said...

Josh Shapiro, a little more edgy, dynamic in some ways. But he's the governor of a state that has 19 electoral votes.

So time doesn't necessarily guarantee that you're going to make the right decision.

You remind me, Erin, there was a Republican convention last week, and I remember it. So it's been a long time, but I remember Trump talking ...

What he is doing tonight is a completely unnatural act in our politics. He's at the pinnacle of power and he's walking away from it.