David Axelrod: “Josh Shapiro, a little more edgy, dynamic in some ways. But he's the governor of a state that has 19 electoral votes.”

I think there's a lot of concern among Republican officeholders. Governor Pawlenty could speak more readily to this than me.

I consider that a rhetorical question.

He wanted Zelenskyy to be an accomplice in dirtying up Joe Biden, who he feared as an opponent.

I think he is one of the things about Joe Biden is he is very, very concerned about his place in history and where his legacy sits and whether people appreciate the things that have been accomplished over the last four years.