David Axelrod: “I do think that Manchin also doesn't want to be the guy who takes Biden's program down.”

The nature of presidential politics is the bar gets raised constantly.

I think Democrats would be very foolish to go all Marjorie Taylor Greene here and WWE stuff and so on. I think they should respond. But I don't think they should, you know, heckle and do the kinds of things that some have talked about.

I moved on, like many others who simply ignored him.

There's no doubt about that. But I also want to say this. You know, all presidents sort of feed off of perceptions of the person who came before and they want to position against what people found lacking in the person that came before.