04/18/2023
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"I know that much of our conversation has been about transgressions and activity that was outside the realm of what one would expect."
"Didn't see much benefit from this particular business transaction."
"I think we've learned a great deal, or we've had, for some of us, reinforcement of thinking and thoughts."
"The benefits that I have seen people receive generally were not enough to be the kind of reward that might say to a person, I don't really need to go out and seek work as assiduously as someone thinks..."