Bill Foster actually said...

So there could be a factor of four reduction in----

Yes. But that's really promising because that means a relatively small subsidy can get someone to a job where then the job that they--you kn...

So even if we can just subsidize that first interview step, after that they start making money if you will.

And I just think one of the great things about this hearing, it should highlight the crucial role in Federal investment in the technology th...