11/28/2023
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"We have bureaucrats in DC making decisions not on facts on the ground."
"That is a lose-lose deal, because those in those donor states are sending that money, in large cases, to the West, where there is a lot of this public land."
"creating a category of conservation as a use makes it compete."
"the arrogance is unbelievable, especially when the majority of the Administration, I would say, probably hasn't even been there."