03/22/2023
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"As a long time supporter of the arts and sometimes called a struggling artist myself, I look forward to each of you sharing your views on the Federal role in supporting culture in the arts."
"And no matter what rules you put in place, somebody is going to violate those. If you are a crook, you are a crook."
"We have a tendency, and whenever something goes wrong, and you know as well as I do that in a government of this many employees there is going to be some crooks."
"I would just note that there has been a question of contract management under every administration, not just the previous administration."