Tom Vilsack: “I think it would be much more helpful and much more profitable for us to start the conversation with: What is the need?”

It is physically demanding and at times dangerous.

There is no doubt that there are many, many, many working poor, working poor with an emphasis on working.

if you authorize it, if Congress creates the opportunity for this, we will be more than happy to utilize that program.

What I can tell you, Senator, and I will get a specific answer to that hypothetical.