Tom Harkin actually said...

for public safety and public health, we do a recall on this.

We cannot keep saying these things if we don't really know.

But, certainly, Mr. Pacelle, you would also agree that if a cow is going down a chute and trips...

we need a 'no downer' policy--as you said, Mr. Chairman, that's a bright-line policy that doesn't allow any of these animals into the food s...