On the recordMay 19, 2011
I say to my friend, yes, we did. On December 8, our committee issued a report, December 8, 2010, a report on, partially-- what the Senator is saying now, how much more expensive these programs are in these schools compared to what they could get, say, at a community college or a nonprofit school in their States. The Senator is right, it is three to four times as much. Plus there is one other thing, I say to my friend. He knows this. When these students go to a small not-for-profit school that you would have in Illinois or the colleges I have in Iowa, such as Simpson or Graceland or Central College--a number of our small private colleges-- they do a great job. They do a wonderful job in helping poor students who need a lot of Pell grants. What these colleges do when students come in and they borrow money and use Pell grants, is provide a lot of support from the university. The university is there to help them with their studies, to make sure they get the kind of help and support they need. A lot of these students come from families who have never gone to college, they never had that kind of experience. They come to college, and they get that support. What the for-profits do is they sign the kids up, and once they get the money, good luck in ever getting any help or support from the for-profit colleges.
