Tom Harkin actually said...

I think, when my kids were born we had a couple, maybe three shots, but we didn't have this long list.

As I understand it, in the beginning you do have face-to-face involvement with the families, is that correct?

I wasn't prepared to have you here, either.

But if things are happening out there, that people are having success with, I would think that NIH would want to look at it.