Tom Harkin actually said...

Dr. Zerhouni, are you advising us that we should zero out all funding for renovation and building of laboratory facilities?

we have to push hard on that. We have to get this thing moving. And I do not know why it has not by now.

I am going to keep proposing that the President has to put that in his budget next year.

But if we make the choice here to continue to fund extramural construction, then you will not have that money for research, will you?