Linda Miller: “Elon Musk is saying we’ve got shocking amounts of fraud, and you’re right, we do. No one’s really cared until now.”

Oh, yeah. I mean, It was like they threw money in the air and just let people run around and grab it.

There is very likely enormous fraud in those programs, and there is very little fraud prevention tools being used today.

Agencies need to be able to use the kinds of tools that banks use, that technology companies use.

We are losing this game big time. And we are losing ground every year by a bigger and bigger margin.