John Hansen: “That is sad, in a way. Because if America is willing to say, all right, we do not want to drive our cars, heat our…”

“That is sad, in a way. Because if America is willing to say, all right, we do not want to drive our cars, heat our homes, we do not want power or air conditioning, we will just go back to the Stone Age, so to speak, then let us all stand around and say, gee, this is wonderful. Look at this beautiful environment. But America is not going to do that. America is a forward, progressive country, always looking for that edge of the envelope where we can get ahead. Gosh, will that not be nice when we do develop these things. I hope it is in our lifetime where we can see these things come about, and we will not have the energy pollution and that type of thing. But I hasten to say that a lot of these things are much better. We just talked about nuclear. They are very, very safe. It is kind of sad, but a lot of politicians like to get up and talk about how terrible it is, we are all going to die because we have that. A lot of people do not realize that we have not built these new nuclear plants, but we have gone from 12 percent of nuclear dependency up to 20 percent just through efficiency. I think really, I would say to my friend, the gentleman from California, that the thing we have to realize is that we are now 57 percent dependent on foreign sources, 57 percent, according to testimony today in the committee from the Department of the Interior.”