Mazie Hirono actually said...

I've often wondered why it is that we don't separate out these budgets, because, in the States, it's--the capital budgets are usually called...

Do the other two panel members want to chime in?

Usually an organization can move forward if there is a guiding overriding goal.

I wonder about that, because, for example, on the issue of things such as base closures, it is really hard for us.