Mazie Hirono actually said...

I think they should be involved, but on the other hand, should they be basically judge and jury?

It seems to me would this not point to the desirability of removing these kinds of decisions from the chain of command so that they would no...

We must move in the right direction. Some of the suggestions that you made were, I think, steps that we should consider seriously.

There are some things, evidently, that we can learn from these other countries.