10/18/2023
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"Our national debt, as we all know, has now surpassed $22 trillion, a huge number."
"I believe, to prioritize our response to China's growing role in the world."
"We have a role to play in this, and we have programs in Hawaii that have been funded to that effect in Hawaii."
"I think it is an excellent question, and I think it does get to the mission of the East-West Center."